This is one of the discrepancies I feel is significant. At times, young people who were at the gatherings at Carla and Vickies house would walk up to the busy parking lot and invite people hanging out at the Dairy Dip to join the parties in the woods. The clue may have been overlooked for any reason or reasons. And judging by the kooky headli, As Ive mentioned in other posts and on social media, I spent the bulk of the wint, Unfortunately, there are no mammoths alive today. Why have some of the stories changed? (He was just trying to see if I would back down, I believe now.) Their remains were found by two hikers 18 days later at Land Between The Lakes. I apologize for sp., the correct names are Carla Atkins, 14, and Vickie Stout, 16, were last seen alive on Sept. 17, 1980, as they were walking on Highway 79 in Dover. My husbands family the Elders and the Jolleys lives in Mayfield and the Fancy Farm area.They love to talk about the scary werewolf stories but they say truth betold the family was killed by the crazy father and the animals tore the bodies apart after they were dead. Here is the short version on the changing cigarette story At first in 1980 there were no cigarettes bought by the girls. But, one resident made it's way in to the area. The families were forced to leave in 1963. Music would blare from the amped up car stereo systems and from the Dairy Dips powerful outdoor jukebox. This investigator actually asked me how my investigation was going and if I was still following the case. Below is a blurb I wrote on Facebook about the murders. The town was so unruly during that era, the Dover Board of Mayor and Aldermen voted to establish a city police department to get matters in check. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/amelia-courtney8/message, This episode contains NEW information and Lainie & Amelia breakdown other information. On September 17, 1980, sisters Carla Atkins, 14, and Vickie Stout, 16, went missing. Explanations for the monster wildly vary and range from a shape-shifting Native American shaman; loup garou tales introduced to the area by early French fur traders; something from another dimension; or a misidentified animalmaybe even Bigfoot. Originally managed by the Tennessee Valley Authority, which had constructed dams to create the two lakes in this area, the recreation area was transferred to administration of the United States Forest Service. The date of September 17, is a pivotal date in the unsolved Land Between the Lakes Lost Creek Child Murders. It was coming from above. Privacy Policy. A 17,000-acre outdoor playground, Land Between the Lakes National Recreation Area is just a short 45-minute drive northwest of Clarksville. This lack of any concrete sources to follow up on makes it quite hard to corroborate any of this tale, making its veracity or truth uncertain. Some say this is not significant. Special invited guests will be speaking during the vigil. In 1973, a group of students from Murray State University were purportedly camping in the area one evening and one of the group went off into the trees to relieve himself. ", Joe screamed, making us jump with alarm at the sound of his voice. Samples of saliva were supposedly sent for analysis and came back as being from an unidentified species akin to a wolf. Gov. In Kentucky there is a nature preserve called, The Land Between the Lakes. Friends and family of Carla Atkins and Vickie Stout. This is not the only information that has changed since it was first released. Sometimes Carla and Vickie were left without adult supervision, sources say. I really enjoy the format and delivery, it feels very genuine and personal, like Im listening and talking with friends! LBLmurdervictims died from shotgun blasts to their heads, autopsy reports say. The half-sisters went missing on the afternoon of Wednesday, Sept. 17, 1980. Murder in Land Between the Lakes ~ Changing stories? Reports vary on what happened next. None of us on the east side of the Tennessee River/Ky lake knew of a sketch. Each one told stories of finding livestock slaughtered, ripped to pieces and eaten upon. Murder in Land Between the Lakes, when it comes to these unsolved murders, is cloaked in mystery. In silence we watched with him for a about 30 seconds and then the dogs started barking. The ones at the top seem to be close and the writing in the left-hand corners are similar. The next morning, two. There was known alcohol consumption and illegal drug activity around the girls when they lived behind the old Dover Dairy Dip. But, supposedly, a group of soldiers was summoned from nearby Fort Campbell to go after the creature, which once again, allegedly they did put it down and it was supposedly so big, it took nearly the whole group to load the body into one of their trucks. Their bodies were found 18 days later at Land Between The Lakes. The cover letter of the autopsy reports lists Dr. Robert H. Lee (Stewart) County Medical Examiner, Dover, Tenn., and W.B. So, I keep an open mind about the beasteven if some of the stories seem farfetched. LBLs Lost Creek Child Murders are one of, if not the, most high profile unsolved murder case in the State of Tennessee and throughout the Land Between the Lakes region. Within a few days of the girls being missing, Gordon said authorities told her and other family members the girls had been seen in Nashville in a soup line.. Access full book title Murder In Lakeview by Terry Simpson, the book also available in format PDF, EPUB, . Things in this case do not add up and they never have. Bill Haslam has announced (Aug 2, 2016) a $5,000 reward for information leading to an arrest in the 1980 kidnapping and murder of two teens in Stewart County. THE STORY OF THE DOGMAN. As others arrived they could see by the gleam of several flashlights that the cop was holding his hat in one hand and his light in the other. It has come time for me to write more about the LBLs Lost Creek Child Murders. This story happened before the Michigan Dogman became popular. He said he was not born until after 1980. Several more campers, fishermen and boaters that had seen it from the safety of of their boats, floating in some of the many bays that touched upon the shoreline. No one knows exactly what happened. In the early 1980s a family of four were rv camping in the Land Between the Lakes area when they were brutally attacked. In a. Most eyewitnesses swear they look a lot like werewolves and act much as the "wolves" did in your episode about the Palmyra wolves. The Land Between the Lakes National Recreation Area is a United States National Recreation Area located in Kentucky and Tennessee between Lake Barkley and Kentucky Lake. Admission is free. Land Between the Lakes. Biology, nature, and cryptozoology still remain Brent Swancers first intellectual loves. No one knows exactly what happened. One citizen reports having seen Carla and Vickie on the afternoon of Sept. 17, 1980 with a young male in a vehicle other than a blue pickup truck. On September 17th, 1980, two sisters, Carla Atkins & Vickie Stout, went missing from the small town of Dover, Tennessee. DOVER, TN - Forty years may have passed, but Carla Atkins and Vickie Stout are still very much on the hearts and minds of the people of the small, quiet town of Dover, Tennessee. That events that led to that arrest of three males started out behind the old Dover Dairy Dip. This is one of those stories that cannot be verified and some believers in the monster think the authorities covered up the deaths so that local tourism would not suffer. This is one of the most widely known Dogman cases that remains unsolved. The pickup truck was described in one news article as being medium blue or sky blue.. Authorities at the time said they did not know if the man in the blue truck was a suspect or a witness. But even that is sketchy as the information about the cigarette buying as opposed to just buying candy and snacks is different from the first to later. The anatomical diagnosis of the autopsy report for Vickie says, Decomposed, partly skeletonized, young Caucasian female; organo-autolysis, insect infestation; shotgun wound to the head. Perhaps the most often-cited tale is that of a family that died at the hands of the beast. These two got more than they bargained for when they were looking for the best hiking trails near them to walk. If it was true, why is that not being followed up on? Cookie Notice The shape of the creature stands like a man but with the head of a dog and is said to have super human strength. The animal that some pointed their finger at was the Dogman of the LBL.Dark brown fur was found between the fingers of one of the victims; aiming the investigation towards the Dogman. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Hours Authorities found them dead and half-eaten inside their motorhome in the 1980s. Will it be solved? In the early 1980's a family of four was camping in the Land Between the Lakes area when they were brutally attacked. The multi-award winning progressive Bluegrass Band Yankee/Dixie from Fairview/Dover performed. I admire your courage to start a podcast with intentions of solving a 40yr old cold case, without any previous knowledge of podcasting or investigation journalism. The public is invited to attend. around the Land Between the Lakes area. The family went a little early to get ahead of the crowd and pick out a great camping spot. The missing child had been located. However, whenever I try to put some distance between myself and the case, it always seems to come over and tap me on the shoulder and say, Look at this!. I posted this last year around the 40th anniversary of the girls disappearance, which was on Sept. 17, 1980 Their bodies were found about three weeks later in LBL. The Kentucky Lake-Lake Barkley area would not be what it is without Land Between The Lakes. Such incidents and sightings apparently occurred into more modern times as well, with one post on a site called DemonHuntersCompendium saying: The sightings of the monster were still frequent throughout the beginning of the twentieth century, and the elderly group on the bench told some unsettling encounters they or members of their own families had with it. Family members say soon after the girls went missing and before their bodies were found, authorities told them Carla and Vickie had been seen in a food line in Nashville. I am an old school investigative reporter from the old days of real newspapers (or at least I was in the old days.) Listen to Amelia & Lainie on "Murder At Land Between The Lakes" as they discuss & interview family members, friends, & potential witnesses, as they start from the beginning and look into the . This is exactly the sort of strange beast that is said to hunt the forests of a patch of wilderness in the U.S. states of Kentucky and Tennessee. In 1980, LBL was under the jurisdiction of the federal governments TVA. The United States Department of Agricultures U.S. Forest Service now controls LBL. That is their prerogative. Their remains were found by two hikers 18 days later at Land Between The Lakes. On September 17th, 1980, the half sisters disappeared from their hometown of Dover, Tennessee. The public was invited and encouraged to attend. Joe apparently was an avid rider of dirt bikes, with which he would go tearing about over forest trails in the Land Between the Lakes, and on this day he was out as usual as Jan and her other cousin sat outside. The animal that some pointed their finger at was the Dogman of the LBL. Or has it been followed up on? A lot of them know every nook and cranny. The creature is said to stand over seven feet tall, with massive crushing jaws, and glowing eyes. The true crime podcast about the 40 year old unsolved murder of sisters Carla Atkins & Vickie Stout of Dover, Tennessee. Then in 1997 John Vinson said they bought cigarettes. Their remains were found by two hikers 18 days later at Land Between The Lakes. This is the final conclusion to the investigation and research on the family deaths at the LBL on 7 Apr 1982. Law enforcement does not put much stock in the change in the cigarette story. A 35th anniversary memorial vigil and an acoustic musical celebration of life will be held Saturday, Oct. 3 from 3 p.m. to 7:35 p.m. at the Stewart County Visitors Center for Carla and Vickie was held years ago. In the world of strange mystery beasts there are some that are certainly stranger than others, and some that are more frightening than others as well. Some may eventually dovetail into others and lead to one theory that is possibly the correct one. Now I started doing some research as of late on forensic sketches, etc., and in looking for a forensic Etch-a-Sketch I came across the Identi-Kit and low and behold on the front cover of the Identi-Kit Manual: System of Modern Visual Identification, Lesson Two there was The Man in the Blue Truck peering at me with his unmistakable helmet hair and sporting a large mustache, aka., a Magnum PIer. Many of you already know the basic details. It is a deeply odd case of a creature that seems to not fit into any clear classification, and is just as horrifying as it is utterly weird. Why is that? #17. Any and all musicians are encouraged to bring their acoustic instruments. For two decades, some of the fastest cars in several surrounding counties in Tennessee and Kentucky could regularly be seen and heard squealing out and laying rubber after Circling The Dip. Sometimes those cars would head off toward the long asphalt stretches in Land Between the Lakes and Long Creek Road for drag races. 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