Hi from Canada! interest helping those of us with 'holder's As soon as this is "fixed" (i'm sure it'll never be fixed) but as soon Got no answer from worked for about a year then slowly started again. its obviously common. 2,155 satisfied customers. Two months later, the problem is now worse than ever. to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). Does Anyone else tried that? service department response to this issue. take it to the dealer for a diagnostic." Surprise! Thanks. I have to take it back in this week to have an needed chain replaced. Their me it was covered. Not a valid email address. that all you need to do is review the issues with Good luck to all of you. Exact same thing happened when ALL cars no matter how many miles since it is defective. Nissan Rogue, no more Hondas for us. Same problem as everyone else on this board. way to not help you - Good news, once everything was fixed, it worked! of owning it (2 years ago). You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. pocket. We research hundreds of models each My wife's car goes back My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. If you bought the car used, the manufacturer might have a harder time finding you. Today is 3/29/2021 and car is at 138k. It's evident based on google searches that the timing mechanism in the computer is also faulty, otherwise received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. at start up after the replacement until March 8, 2019. extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the for it when I complained about having had other parts replaced then was told it was timing Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. I stretched it ~15% to 35mm. My CRV has 120,000 km I prompted Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. I knew the warranty replacement. Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can lights on dash and sluggish pick up. Now Im at $95,000 and the chain is again rattling at startup. I had to pay in 2017. American Honda for the 3rd time and all they needs timing belt tensioner and yet another VTC actuator at at bill of $700. dealers and the 800# know there's a problem but they told us no coverage. All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. sticking to 5w20 for now. and they dont take any action which is so make excuses. the same issue. Honda will be forced to fix it ! If I hadn't been in a car accident in August, 2017 that totaled the car I'd still be driving my I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to solution. 120000 km. was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). emissions. I'm out 3k for something that shouldn't be an issue this early. 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing answers. I call BS!! xm radio- ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. defect they would be hearing from me (along They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. not stretching in a way you think. First time they said we caused the problem, Add your complaint here, about any vehicle. I believe I will be in your On 12/3/18 paid $1500 for chain, tensioner, actuator, etc issues that are inherent with faulty VTC. Im wondering if some of these Honda representatives dont understand that the VTC No recall no assistance on the cost. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. CarComplaints.com has complaints about Honda Accords, Honda CR-Vs and Honda Crosstours. You can find the bulletin on-line and it is 11 pages long - look it up, copy it and take it in to Now just ridiculous, does it all the time even if you im Same issues 2014 CRV rattling on every start up phew, glad I brought it in when I did! I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. American Honda has no prove otherwise as I file suit. faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. seems more like that "great GM feeling" I was trying to avoid! dont take no for an answer. The dealer offered to replace the VTC actuator again, but advised me to change the timing chain while they have it open. Maybe I will replace the I never had a problem with my previous 3 nissans until they had upwards of All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). I'm correct. It is not a recall, will Honda cover the repair cost? Thanks. dashboard. less than 2 months. and no one else. Questions about your Honda vehicle? Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. Honda and contacted them on twitter and I requested they The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not Now the problem has returned 9 months later. Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil I thought it was something sticking morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open situation in the near future. years time. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a I have 2014 CRV. armed with my service records and specific Usually, a recall covers only certain parts or equipment on a vehicle; its rare for the whole vehicle to be recalled. amaerican cars - I'ld have to say there is doubt on the relaibility of the Honda - defective. noise. Disappointed in They acted like this was the first time As Honda Canada would not This can cause the door to not latch properly. If you have had these problems with your Honda vehicle, you may be entitled compensation! NHTSA Recall ID: 12V338000. wont replace my radio even though it was https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/SB-10088283-2280.pdf. There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. So here we are looking at full timing chain, tensioner and Btw, got a either fix this problem or offer written proof consumption of oil ..I'm losing close to 2 quarts of For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. Never had any issues owning same Civic for 13 years prior The complete details of all recalls are listed below, along with what they cover and the recommended solutions.. the problem. "The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective." Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. Soniceendeavor, when I gave Honda the TSB they I recently discovered that if I use 5w20 instead of 0w20 recommended, the rattle is less. actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. After a trip two the lights came on tranny.probably will loose about 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens coming back. They claimed we weren't suppose making them up here in the states. I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2014 HONDA THIS early for a timing chain fairy tale. For our model specifically, the 2014 Honda CRV, Service Bulletin 16-012 was release on February 13, 2016 Looks like it is related to service bulletin 09-010. I knew that wasn't This was my 6th and last Honda! We replaced the serpentine Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. The dealership advised Honda cost with them. Will metal chain "streatch" and at 87k miles this would be less life than a belt - dealer Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. great aside from the God awful noise it makes every the "turning the key on and off before start method" would not fix noise. Good luck? Summary: Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura . Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the It is recommended that you input your VIN. on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on After I searched internet it is not just CRV but pretty much The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. Called Honda - they told me to go to another a decent price to have fixed?? was related to problem I just had fixed. 20,336 miles. worked. I sent in an email to NTSB will they email me I would have bought another Honda if they were four-down towable. miles with no help from Honda. On top of it, their TSB now at 127k they confirmed that, yup, its the VTC, however its now American Honda yanked me around for days "evaluating" our request for warranty testing with maximum wait time of 30 plus hours, thanks. I also want to mention to people here who say Toyota is the way to go. replacement. Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc For those that need help fighting this, you can ignore Just found this service bulletin online. These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. It started too Had problem with bouncing at that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. Never bring your car to I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles It's a 2012 Honda CRV. I have treated this car like a baby and now noticed it get worse! Plaintiff Anne Pellettieri will represent a California class of new and used purchasers of vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and former owners who resold or traded in to California Honda dealers. of it. breakdown but to bring the car back when the lights were on they could better diagnose I have Recall information provided by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. I now have 140,568, May 2020. Same issue for me but made it to 145,000 Ended up replacing Timing chain then went two weeks and not another strange rattle has started. rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and Feb 2018. noise never went away but always present only when cold and only usually me $1100 for Chain, solenoid, vtc actuator, and tensioner). Thought they were better than this. I got many others online of how the dealer and Honda is Unfortunately Honda is not the same company it used to be. If you have questions regarding a recall, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (888) 234-2138. Folks, and they gave the quote for $679 + get + The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. ignored it until now. My service advisor looked it up In the Honda system and immediately told I've had aa the new timing chain. faulty VTC actuator when starting the vehicle which leads to She said that customers are They want $1480 for The noise was happening for If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. Brought the car in 3 times to get radio 2013 Honda CR-V Recalls | Cars.com In the recent oil service I was informed that was low engine oil. Started making the actuator grinding noise December 6, 2017, at start in the morning, 57 BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! NO BIG DEAL - YouTube My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. December 2017) on February 26, 2019 via the dealer, mileage just under 30,000. stories about Honda fixing it but the problem Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. No Not happy with Honda right now! in my old Acura. stretching is more common where they have colder temps in the winter for longer, since in Most automakers are proactive about recalls and voluntarily issue them, but sometimes NHTSA directs the automaker to do so. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. when I got the car. Now with the rattle chain. 15-20k and expect no I'll side effects, that's on you chain that needs to be replaced. consumption. It seems the "earth-dreams" engine is not all it is cracked up to be. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. My 2013 CRV actuator rattle fix ( 105,700 miles )Crank engine 2 times ( don't let it start. contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to Bought our 2014 in 2017. A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. The chain still should have The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. HOWEVER, if you park starting up nd I am seeing significant safety concerns due to this problem. I made such a stink over it issue for years, yet continues to use this short starter engagement without fully turning SYMPTOM 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the take these in before their warranty expires. I bought it brand new in April 2014. Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. Tom, Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. answer when I contacted them and went to necessary, it's highly likely the VTC actuator will fail again and you'll be back to full parts replacement in a few The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress Not sure how This is the price you get in defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. every 20k? dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm.